Anyone had Youtube Copyright claim which caused your uploaded guitar playing video removed?

[hondoman]

Recently I uploaded my own guitar playing following a pop song. At the time, Youtube flagged on message saying that the owner of the copyright allows the video to be uploaded on youtube.
After about 10 days, I got email from Youtube saying that the owner of the copyright claimed the copyright to remove the video.
Has this ever happened to you? This is the first time ever Youtube had some something like that with the guitar play along videos with the pop song.
It suggests option to Send Retracting copyright claims to the copyright owner, or attend the copyright school online. Not sure what is the best option here. cheers.

 

[Seamus OReally]

Well, as I understand it, if the copyright holder complains, you’re done. I’m surprised they provided the option to send a retracting claim to the owner. But you don’t really have much recourse if the owners say, “stop.”

 

[StratoMutt]

Recently I uploaded my own guitar playing following a pop song. At the time, Youtube flagged on message saying that the owner of the copyright allows the video to be uploaded on youtube.
After about 10 days, I got email from Youtube saying that the owner of the copyright claimed the copyright to remove the video.
Has this ever happened to you? This is the first time ever Youtube had some something like that with the guitar play along videos with the pop song.
It suggests option to Send Retracting copyright claims to the copyright owner, or attend the copyright school online. Not sure what is the best option here. cheers.

I'm not sure there are any other options other than find another hosting service. YT has become a behemoth, too big for the collective good.

 

[hondoman]

From my own logic, I cannot understand how they can claim copyright, when my own guitar playing along the song is the content, which is now totally sounding different from the original. It would be only copyright claimable, if the uploaded video content was exactly and identical to the original. Also it would only make sense if the uploaded video was making any type of monetary gains. There was not even a penny made from the video. It was really for educational video - learning how to play guitar.

 

[Seamus OReally]

From my own logic, I cannot understand how they can claim copyright, when my own guitar playing along the song is the content, which is now totally sounding different from the original. It would be only copyright claimable, if the uploaded video content was exactly and identical to the original. Also it would only make sense if the uploaded video was making any type of monetary gains. There was not even a penny made from the video. It was really for educational video - learning how to play guitar.

Is it someone else’s song? Then you’re cooked. Doesn’t matter if you make money, that’s not the point of copyright. It’s exactly what it says, the right to make copies. What exactly do you mean by “my own guitar playing along the song?” Is the original song audible? Recognizable? Then you’re done.

 

[Ummagumma]

They were right . By law

 

[bbarott]

I haven't had this. Use copyrighted material on occasion. But I do two things. First, clearly acknowledge their copyright and credit the copyright holder with thanks and a link to their site, if available. And secondly my videos are not monetized in any way.

This is essentially promoting their material, and although I can't say for sure I have to think they see it the same way.

 

[Mouse]

I haven't had this. Use copyrighted material on occasion. But I do two things. First, clearly acknowledge their copyright and credit the copyright holder with thanks and a link to their site, if available. And secondly my videos are not monetized in any way.

This is essentially promoting their material, and although I can't say for sure I have to think they see it the same way.

This for me as well but I’ve had a few removed. Anything Bowie, Prince or Eagles goes pretty quickly. Mostly though they just claim the copyright and get the monetized proceeds…which are all of $0.

 

[bbarott]

This for me as well but I’ve had a few removed. Anything Bowie, Prince or Eagles goes pretty quickly. Mostly though they just claim the copyright and get the monetized proceeds…which are all of $0.

I'll go out on a limb and suggest the top names like you mentioned are less concerned with getting their stuff out there than the folks in my 'circle', if I can call it that.

That said all I use are backing tracks that I've bought and paid for and I gotta believe they are meant to be used. I mainly post my stuff on youtube because it's a convenient place to keep my stuff organized, don't really give a flip about followers, likes or any of that crap.

I do claim copyright for original material I post, as I do know there's jerks out there that will grab your stuff and try to run with it. That's just not cool.

 

[hondoman]

I'm not sure there are any other options other than find another hosting service. YT has become a behemoth, too big for the collective good.

What other platforms are good for uploading videos for archiving? I was thinking of going to TikTok. Your point seems making sense. YT has become too big, and maybe it is not good to be with them anymore. Too much irrelevant and daft adverts in the platform anyway. It is just too much distraction and waste of time watching all the time wasting adverts in there.

 

[hondoman]

It is unfortunate that the CR claimant had done what he had done - the song I used think cool is now just a commercial piece attacking even a video made for educational purpose. Will not be able to listen to the song or any songs done by the group ever again. And will not recommend or comment on the song or group in positive way to all others that I communicate with and to. It will not be positive perspective for the group who sang the song or the song itself in the long run in every possible respect.

I will never play along another western pop song in the future again too. I am only a beginner of guitar who used to be mainly learning by playing along with the easy pop songs. Who would possibly listen to my guitar playing along a song, and enjoy listening to that, when they can listen to the original?

 

[StratoMutt]

What other platforms are good for uploading videos for archiving? I was thinking of going to TikTok. Your point seems making sense. YT has become too big, and maybe it is not good to be with them anymore. Too much irrelevant and daft adverts in the platform anyway. It is just too much distraction and waste of time watching all the time wasting adverts in there.

Are you a paid subscriber? Don't know if that makes a difference. There a lot of YT guitar tutorials out there good and bad. Perhaps contact those like Marty who have their own channels and inquire what they do. https://www.youtube.com/@MartyMusic

I will never have a YT or google account.

Cloud storage like Microsoft OneDrive or google drive can serve the same purpose. Not nearly as user friendly / easily sharable as YT.

I use OneDrive but my needs are modest. I've never had a problem with my audio versions of copyrighted songs I post there. They are not publicly visible - I send links to those I want to share with or on occasion post to forum sites.

I've managed to stop Windows nagging me to use OneDrive as my PC backup. There are several "hoops to jump through" - there are web tutorials on how to do that. Not all have good intentions.

They were right . By law

What it comes down to.

 

[StratoMutt]

Have not logged into OneDrive via the web in a bit. Like Windows, it begs you to stay logged on. There is a learning curve to using the space for those without a fair amount of PC skills. I'm a former IT professional so I have had the account for years and can zig zag through the procedures easily enough.

I setup my PC to log on with a local account only.

TikTok?

 

[Seamus OReally]

It is unfortunate that the CR claimant had done what he had done - the song I used think cool is now just a commercial piece attacking even a video made for educational purpose. Will not be able to listen to the song or any songs done by the group ever again. And will not recommend or comment on the song or group in positive way to all others that I communicate with and to. It will not be positive perspective for the group who sang the song or the song itself in the long run in every possible respect.

I will never play along another western pop song in the future again too. I am only a beginner of guitar who used to be mainly learning by playing along with the easy pop songs. Who would possibly listen to my guitar playing along a song, and enjoy listening to that, when they can listen to the original?

Oh, brother. Yeah, you’re the victim.

Do you mean “playing along with a song?”

 

[hondoman]

Are you a paid subscriber? Don't know if that makes a difference. There a lot of YT guitar tutorials out there good and bad. Perhaps contact those like Marty who have their own channels and inquire what they do. https://www.youtube.com/@MartyMusic

I will never have a YT or google account.

Cloud storage like Microsoft OneDrive or google drive can serve the same purpose. Not nearly as user friendly / easily sharable as YT.

I use OneDrive but my needs are modest. I've never had a problem with my audio versions of copyrighted songs I post there. They are not publicly visible - I send links to those I want to share with or on occasion post to forum sites.

I've managed to stop Windows nagging me to use OneDrive as my PC backup. There are several "hoops to jump through" - there are web tutorials on how to do that. Not all have good intentions.


What it comes down to.

Good point. I think it is time to move away from Google and YT for good. Too much control and too much commericialised. Even need to change the phone to iOS from Android. If your income is dependent on YT, then it could be a dire situation like some folks. But I have 400 odd subscribers and haven't made a single penny from YT, so I don't need to be with YT. I don't see making a single penny from YT in any future either. I have been using YT purely for archiving purposes.

I think I will just stick to play along the Korean music. They never strike with copyright. This incident has given us an alarming call saying that most western pop and rock music are just commercialised traps, land mines for CR strikes and need to stay away from them.

Some old blues music might be safe from the crazy CR strikes? Not sure. Hope so. Will see.

 

[Ummagumma]

Playing along is a derivative and a copywriter infringement. You would have to get permission from the owner. In this case they said no. Yt. Had no choice

 

[Della Street]

Ouch.
All I can say is that all of my copyright claimed videos still stand. This can only mean one thing: Willie Nelson and Mr. Big like my renditions.

 

[hondoman]

Playing along is a derivative and a copywriter infringement. You would have to get permission from the owner. In this case they said no. Yt. Had no choice

Hmmm . Not sure if it is a fair system. It gives strong impression of controlling. I will just stick to other type of music which has no problem with CR strike problems. Thanks.

 

[hondoman]

The current CR strike system in YT need to be seriously reviewed and replaced with something better. The way they do it at the moment will make ordinary YTers keep leaving the platform. If YT is not a fair and just platform for all the creators in the world, then it is not a good platform to be with.
The current CR strike system is making the YT look like a money and control crazed organisation punishing anyone who is not powerful and mega rich. (nothing to do with actual abuse of CRed art pieces).
It is also making the original artists and creators look like a bunch of traders pushing their products for monetary gains, which is real sad. Enough said.

 

[StratoMutt]

Here is a OneDrive link: Phil X - HS.mp4

There was a discussion about this YT video on another forum some time ago. I saved it to my PC and then uploaded to OneDrive in the event YT deleted it. I have no idea if it ever got nuked.

Well worth a listen to, saving it is now quite easy.