What are your thoughts? Compare boogie fillmore (paid 1700) to superchamp xd (paid 250)

which sounds better here - boogie or superchamp xd?

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Haven42

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Jan 16, 2022
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I really can't believe this - I just bought a boogie fillmore but then also picked up this lil cheapo superchamp xd which I put a ragin cajon 10" and also run to another cabinet (which also has a rc 10" and a Celestion Vintage 8). I find the superchamp to inspire me way way more than this boogie - i mean really how crazy?? I just recorded a quick mp3 w each using the same guitar (Gretsch Streamliner - which funny enough I feel the same way about cuz I paid $450 for the Streamliner and also paid 1600 for a PRS Vela and I pick up the streamliner everytime!)

Check it out, cast your vote and tell me if you disagree...
Note - the level was higher when recording the boogie - pay no attention to that.

Testing Superchamp XD:

Testing Boogie Fillmore:
 

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Handsome McClane

Handsome McClane

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An SCXD was my main grab and go amp for about 5 years. Now I've got a MB Subway Rocket.

Personally in your samples I like the Boogie better, but the SCXD sounds nice too - nice Fendery character. Both good, but different.
 
Snaked Strat

Snaked Strat

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Mar 17, 2022
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So Haven - you've posted these mp3's a 2nd time I see.
Same outcome - chalk and cheese for me.

You've compared a mod'ed Champ XD against a stock Fillmore....
You swapped in a Ragin Cajin speaker so the Champ cost you more than $250.
And which Fillmore is it - Mesa make several different models?

The Fender sounded boxy and inarticulate imo as you'd expect from a Champ with a 10 inch speaker.
Fillmore was much clearer, warmer, fuller & more sparkle in top end imo.

You've also chosen just to record clean tones.
Fillmore does x10 than just clean obviously but you're ignoring that.

I own 2 Gretsch prolines and have played several Streamliners.
The Streamliner range are Gretsch's el cheapo models.

And you're comparing a hollowbody Streamliner with a solid body PRS - apples v oranges.
Streamliners are excellent value for $$ imo but not in the class of a PRS Vela imo.

Appears you have a preference for things that are cheap 😇
 
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StratUp

StratUp

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I don't think the comparison is fair. That is, you get a different sound from the two of them so it becomes a question of "which sound do you prefer" not ""which Amp do you prefer".

But they both sound good in their own way.

Next time, post it as a blind test and let people decide which they prefer more. Maybe even redo this as a blind test with a variety of sounds from the each Amp.
 
Snaked Strat

Snaked Strat

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stratocarlster said:
You call that clean? :oops:
Click to expand...

Yep going some toward the edge of breakup but not yet overdrive - still in the clean range imo.
The Champ has been pushed further than the Fillmore so this is not an apples v oranges conparison.

If people are gonna do internet tone comparisons they need to list the EQ and gain settings used for each amp and explain exactly how it was recorded.

I notice in these mp3s there's a boost of some sort applied part way in.
No idea what he's done there but should be fully explained too 😇
 
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StratUp

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Snaked Strat said:
Yep going some toward the edge of breakup but not yet overdrive - still in the clean range imo.
The Champ has been pushed further than the Fillmore so this is not an apples v oranges conparison.

The Fillmore has another 100 great tones in it while Champ is a 1 trick pony.

If people are gonna do internet tone comparisons they need to list the EQ and gain settings used for each amp and explain exactly how it was recorded.

I notice in these mp3s there's a boost of some sort applied part way in.
No idea what he's done there but should be fully explained too 😇
Click to expand...

FYI – the Superchamp XD in this thread has 15 or 16 amp models available. He doesn't have an old school Champ.
 
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Haven42

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Jan 16, 2022
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Snaked Strat said:
Yep going some toward the edge of breakup but not yet overdrive - still in the clean range imo.
The Champ has been pushed further than the Fillmore so this is not an apples v oranges conparison.

The Fillmore has another 100 great tones in it while Champ is a 1 trick pony.

If people are gonna do internet tone comparisons they need to list the EQ and gain settings used for each amp and explain exactly how it was recorded.

I notice in these mp3s there's a boost of some sort applied part way in.
No idea what he's done there but should be fully explained too 😇
Click to expand...
All good points here (and in your earlier reply too). I guess i was just surprised after buying these two amps at the same time and given the cost difference that ive been more intrigued w the scxd. I think its that lil "pierce" that i get w the fender that i cant seem to get from the boogie - which makes me wonder if thats what people are referring to when they talk about "ice pick" which would be kinda funny cuz everyone seems not to like that and yet to me ive always found that to be satisfying both when playing and listening...like albert king, albert collins, etc. Also regarding gretsch i would probably love a higher end gretsch given how much i enjoy the streamliner but part of it is the broadtrons which i think might only be in the streamliner? All too much fun. Im keeping both amps in the collection and admit too these are only "first impressions" as i have not yet fully explored either amp. Oh - also probably should have mentioned that on the scxd its the "bassman" setting im mostly drawn to.
And i may feel entirely differently about all this in a band situation - this has just been in the basement impressions.
 
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Haven42

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Jan 16, 2022
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Snaked Strat said:
So Haven - you've posted these mp3's a 2nd time I see.
Same outcome - chalk and cheese for me.

You've compared a mod'ed Champ XD against a stock Fillmore....
You swapped in a Ragin Cajin speaker so the Champ cost you more than $250.
And which Fillmore is it - Mesa make several different models?

The Fender sounded boxy and inarticulate imo as you'd expect from a Champ with a 10 inch speaker.
Fillmore was much clearer, warmer, fuller & more sparkle in top end imo.

You've also chosen just to record clean tones.
Fillmore does x10 than just clean obviously but you're ignoring that.

I own 2 Gretsch prolines and have played several Streamliners.
The Streamliner range are Gretsch's el cheapo models.

And you're comparing a hollowbody Streamliner with a solid body PRS - apples v oranges.
Streamliners are excellent value for $$ imo but not in the class of a PRS Vela imo.

Appears you have a preference for things that are cheap 😇
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A couple things here - interesting that you mention sc sounding "boxy" cuz i didnt mention but the fillmore is the 25 and just the head so what you are hearing here is both amps recorded through the same speaker and cabinet.
Also fyi, my prs vela is a semi hollow. I prefer the cheapo streamliner in every regard. Ive typically always played my strats but finally starting to branch out after 40 years lol.
 
Wound_Up

Wound_Up

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Jan 23, 2020
6,110
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One sounds like a vintage amp and one sounds like a modern amp. That's part of the difference. The Fender sounds like it's right out of 1955 while the Fillmore sounds right out of 2005. Like many said, it's 2 completely different sounds. It's more of which you prefer.

Also...just because something costs more doesn't automatically mean it's "better" or that you'll like it more or prefer it over something that costs less. I would work on not having that sort of expectation, also. 👍
 
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