Telecaster age verification.

electriceye

Strat-Talk Member
Sep 15, 2013
18
Dorking, Surrey,RH42NF,UK
Hi,
I know if you take the neck off you should be able to see the year of manufacture, but judging by the neck, hardwear and neck decal pat number it could be an early 60's example. It has a rosewood finger board, and the neck is a thick but comfortable "D' shape . The fret board visibly has a radius but t action is fantastic, no fret issues and stays in tune with the classic saddles that take 2 strings. I know the body has been beautifully made years ago, any ideas how old this lovely Tele is,?
 

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Eric_G

Senior Stratmaster
Jan 10, 2021
3,922
Quebec
Hi,
I know if you take the neck off you should be able to see the year of manufacture, but judging by the neck, hardwear and neck decal pat number it could be an early 60's example. It has a rosewood finger board, and the neck is a thick but comfortable "D' shape . The fret board visibly has a radius but t action is fantastic, no fret issues and stays in tune with the classic saddles that take 2 strings. I know the body has been beautifully made years ago, any ideas how old this lovely Tele is,?
What's the story behind the guitar ?

It will be difficult for experts here to help you date it. Not enough pictures...

It isn't hard to find 60's style sticker that are close to the real deal and build what could appears to be a legit 60's tele. So I suspect people will be careful before confirming anything.

Is there a serial number on the neck plate ? What is it ?

Ideally, picture of the body routing, electronics, neck pocket and neck heal would help a lot.
 

electriceye

Strat-Talk Member
Sep 15, 2013
18
Dorking, Surrey,RH42NF,UK
Hi, firstly thank you for the prompt reply. I know it is over 15 years old as that's when I got it, gig with it occasionally but less so when I thought I could have an old one here albeit perhaps NOT original body, but if not it was beautifully done. I didn't want to take the neck off as it plays so well I didn't want to disturb it but I guess I will have to bite the bullet. And take the neck off. There is no serial number on the neck plate, but one can see by the wear ( not by me) the neck has some age , so at least I know it has original decal. I will take neck off tomorrow and post pics,
Cheers
 

Eric_G

Senior Stratmaster
Jan 10, 2021
3,922
Quebec
Hi, firstly thank you for the prompt reply. I know it is over 15 years old as that's when I got it, gig with it occasionally but less so when I thought I could have an old one here albeit perhaps NOT original body, but if not it was beautifully done. I didn't want to take the neck off as it plays so well I didn't want to disturb it but I guess I will have to bite the bullet. And take the neck off. There is no serial number on the neck plate, but one can see by the wear ( not by me) the neck has some age , so at least I know it has original decal. I will take neck off tomorrow and post pics,
Cheers
It is a beautiful instrument...

Regardless of dates, origin, part caster or genuine intact vintage... if it plays beautifully, it's all that counts... to me anyway...

Now if you want to confirm what you really have and if it's of high resale value, you'll need to get all those pics mentioned above...
 

stratman323

Dr. Stratster
Apr 21, 2010
39,299
London, UK
I would have assumed a 1980s Japanese Tele from that body wood. It's easy to change the decal to add patent numbers. But hopefully I'm wrong & well see a 1960s neck date when you pop the neck off & take some pics.
 

ETucc

Strat-Talker
Apr 10, 2022
403
NJ
I would have assumed a 1980s Japanese Tele from that body wood. It's easy to change the decal to add patent numbers. But hopefully I'm wrong & well see a 1960s neck date when you pop the neck off & take some pics.
Definitely stripped/refinished.
 

El Gobernador

fezz parka
Apr 21, 2011
37,709
Nunyo, BZ
I am dubious as to whether this is real. Veneer is right for 63 and onward...

Should have a stamp...not hand date.

What are the codes on the pots? Can't really see the numbers other than 220k.
 

electriceye

Strat-Talk Member
Sep 15, 2013
18
Dorking, Surrey,RH42NF,UK
Its obviously NOT a MIJ copy, what value would you put on it? The bridge plate has Fender Pat No which I can't make out and it has an old looking single ply scratch plate. It is a beauty to play but def Fender NOT MIJ copy ( nothing wrong with many of those). I will send a pic of the machine heads and neck where you can see truss rod adjuster. I know after a certain year they stamped years on hence my thoughts it is an original early '60's neck. Cheers for everyone's input. Pics to follow.
 

electriceye

Strat-Talk Member
Sep 15, 2013
18
Dorking, Surrey,RH42NF,UK
Pics as promised. I tell you, I was nervous removing the neck ( not normally but thinking it could be an old girl with such a fantastic action, I took care). Man, the body neck socket is tight as a glove, but is back as was. Thanks for any further thoughts on value.
 

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electriceye

Strat-Talk Member
Sep 15, 2013
18
Dorking, Surrey,RH42NF,UK
PPS..I will have a good look at numbers on pots and post those. I read the other day in a friends Telecaster book, that in the late 50's/ early 60's Leo Fender started using rosewood fret board as he wasn't happy with wear that developed on the maple neck? Also, apparently experimented with natural finish/ different bodies however, I don't believe the body to be original, but I am convinced the neck and hardware is original? Ok, the wiring might be different, again I will look closely at that. Once more,, my thanks to all that have responded.
 

electriceye

Strat-Talk Member
Sep 15, 2013
18
Dorking, Surrey,RH42NF,UK
Out of interest a very good old friend who was in a name band ( that's irrelevant) has a genuine and valuable 61 Tele and confirmed the truss Rod adjustment is exactly the same as this neck, you can just see the top of the adjuster at the body end of the neck. So any ideas what value this might be? He suggested just selling the neck but the body has such a beautiful wood grain and plays so nicely that would be a sacrilege to me!!
 


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