Schroedinger's bits: Quantum computers

[Butcher of Strats]

Rather than ones or zeros or bits, info is stored in bits that are or can be both a one and a zero at the same time.
AKA qubits.
Supposedly they can hack any encryption in minutes.
Read that a member using duck duck go still gets popup scams when on Strat Talk.

Are we being quantum hacked to Schoedinger's bits?

 

[Butcher of Strats]

NOVA | Six Ways Quantum Computers Could Change the World | Season 46 | PBS

See why experts are saying it's the dawn of a new Information Age.

www.pbs.org

 

[CalicoSkies]

I've been hearing about quantum computers for about 20 years. It sounds like they've made some developments, but I thought they were still a ways off from practical use. And I doubt they'd be hacking our accounts here.

 

[Butcher of Strats]

I've been hearing about quantum computers for about 20 years. It sounds like they've made some developments, but I thought they were still a ways off from practical use. And I doubt they'd be hacking our accounts here.

Well right, been in the works a long time and that would be a dumb place to test one?
Unless Russia or China?
Not being serious about quantum computers skulking around my back yard.

But interesting if the decades of work are now working models.

And intersting if hackers stroll right though duck duck go now.

 

[Oldboy]

 

[Butcher of Strats]

News came on when I was across the room, may have caught a virus before I ran to change the channel?

 

[Butcher of Strats]

The overlords are very happy that us sheep have no complaints!

No worries this won't hurt a bit.
Put your wallets and jewelry in the bins provided...

 

[Della Street]

all i know is that Bard is much dumber than ChatGPT.
i was invited to test drive beta-Bard and it is basically Siri, very primitive so far.
it will still take our jobs though, i'm sure, 'cause we're not very bright ourselves...

 

[Butcher of Strats]

all i know is that Bard is much dumber than ChatGPT.
i was invited to test drive beta-Bard in it is basically Siri, very primitive so far.
it will still take our jobs though, i'm sure, 'cause we're not very bright ourselves...

Oh yeah well the recent outcry to not release AI into the kindergarten class is a whole nother thing.
AI is at best run on supercomputers, not quantum computers, so it is really not powerful OR intelligent.

LaMda is one of the dumber intelligences and got all me me me on google.

My sense is they could make basic supercomputer AI chatbots and whatever else AI is used for, much stronger than the goofy stuff WE consumers get to see?
What are they holding back?

Then, facilities that are developing quantum computers, presumably those are firewalled.
But behind those firewalls, are they using AI for development and management of those cutting edge machines they are probably developing as fast as they can given cutting edge is not cutting edge for long?
Do their AI's have access to the quantum computers?

What could possibly go wrong???

And back to the dumb and the weak, why are top AI tech leaders urging we hold back?

What could possibly go wrong???

 

[simoncroft]

I've long understood what Schroerdinger was trying to illustrate with his hypothetical cat. When this goes beyond the desire to explain the behaviour of some sub-atomic particles, and moves into the realms of practical applications most of the population neither understand, nor are informed about, I get deeply uncomfortable.

It's bad enough trying to phone a bank or utility company today, because all the IT is there to do anything but connect you to another human being.

Once the IT starts making decisions about your exam results, loan application, lung scan... you need to be more certain than 'hoping' whoever set up these systems got it right.

If they didn't, I'm not sure how we'll ever contact them.

I'm not at all anti technology, I just think we need to have a transparent debate about exactly what technology we're introducing, what it's supposed to achieve, and the possible downsides.

 

[Butcher of Strats]

I've long understood what Schroerdinger was trying to illustrate with his hypothetical cat. When this goes beyond the desire to explain the behaviour of some sub-atomic particles, and moves into the realms of practical applications most of the population neither understand, nor are informed about, I get deeply uncomfortable.

It's bad enough trying to phone a bank or utility company today, because all the IT is there to do anything but connect you to another human being.

Once the IT starts making decisions about your exam results, loan application, lung scan... you need to be more certain than 'hoping' whoever set up these systems got it right.

If they didn't, I'm not sure how we'll ever contact them.

I'm not at all anti technology, I just think we need to have a transparent debate about exactly what technology we're introducing, what it's supposed to achieve, and the possible downsides.

Your last sentence: "what technology we're introducing, what it's supposed to achieve, and the possible downsides" has been a question set only answered a decade after testing on humans reveals the problems.
More related to med and chemical tech, but AI tech is just as much a concern.

Even after many people die the stopping is a battle.
Humans are expendable, development of tech for profit in industry is not expendable or even subject to being put on hold.

 

[Butcher of Strats]

Saw this over at the pics thread today

 

[Della Street]

Oh yeah well the recent outcry to not release AI into the kindergarten class is a whole nother thing.
AI is at best run on supercomputers, not quantum computers, so it is really not powerful OR intelligent.

LaMda is one of the dumber intelligences and got all me me me on google.

My sense is they could make basic supercomputer AI chatbots and whatever else AI is used for, much stronger than the goofy stuff WE consumers get to see?
What are they holding back?

Then, facilities that are developing quantum computers, presumably those are firewalled.
But behind those firewalls, are they using AI for development and management of those cutting edge machines they are probably developing as fast as they can given cutting edge is not cutting edge for long?
Do their AI's have access to the quantum computers?

What could possibly go wrong???

And back to the dumb and the weak, why are top AI tech leaders urging we hold back?

What could possibly go wrong???

agreed on all points.
i would just add that we shouldn't overlook the bright spot that there is no need for anguish or agony because nothing will ever get better.

 

[Oldboy]

 

[Butcher of Strats]

View attachment 635889

Greetings potential human.
I am a chatbot.
Can you prove that you are not a robot?

 

[crankmeister]

Saw this over at the pics thread today

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I thought that mankind was the biggest joke on mankind

 

[Butcher of Strats]

I thought that mankind was the biggest joke on mankind

Today, of all days!

 

[Oldboy]

Greetings potential human.
I am a chatbot.
Can you prove that you are not a robot?

Creation Of The Humanoids (1962)​

Watch It Here

 

[StratMike10]

1. Read about new technology
2. is it a potential threat to humanity?

No ——-> Carry on
Yes ——> Create conspiracy theory and sow seeds of fear —-> Carry on

 

[Butcher of Strats]

1. Read about new technology
2. is it a potential threat to humanity?

No ——-> Carry on
Yes ——> Create conspiracy theory and sow seeds of fear —-> Carry on

Two possible options:

Corporate has our best interest at heart.

"Conspiracy theory".