Can this be called a Fender Stratocaster?
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No. Because it didn't come with Fender strings installed at the factory.
Certainly a fender strat
Certainly not a factory fender strat
The only time those would have a different meaning is if during a sales discussion
Ymmv
Certainly not a factory fender strat
The only time those would have a different meaning is if during a sales discussion
Ymmv
Well after playing Squiers and MIM's and several MIA's. I found that in my advanced age (70), I could have the one guitar that played smooth as silk, sounded like a million dollars and the color and finish I like.
I have no plans of ever selling but passing it on to my Son when I leave this earth.
Thanks to everyone who responded with their input.
P.S.
Is E. C .'s Blackie a partscaster or what? I wouldn't want it if it didn't feel good in my hands.
I have no plans of ever selling but passing it on to my Son when I leave this earth.
Thanks to everyone who responded with their input.
P.S.
Is E. C .'s Blackie a partscaster or what? I wouldn't want it if it didn't feel good in my hands.
Making your own allows you to make it your own. Sounds like a nice heirloom to begin in your hands.
Johnny didn't pay a dime for his
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Only if you send Fender the Retail guitar vs Used parts price premium can you officially call it a Fender guitar. You paid the finished product profit premium. You're all ok!
Remember, you put it together slowly not the $10/hour temporary laborer assembling it rapidly after ten minutes of training (or if they go slower than targeted build rate they do not remain an employee).
At the end of the day, when this guitar is sold a half dozen times after going through a few pawn shops ... someone will try to run the serial number against Fender's database and it won't match anything thus proving it's not a Fender guitar. Just a jumble of parts. At which time it sells for more money as parts than it will as a complete guitar.
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Only if you send Fender the Retail guitar vs Used parts price premium can you officially call it a Fender guitar. You paid the finished product profit premium. You're all ok!
Remember, you put it together slowly not the $10/hour temporary laborer assembling it rapidly after ten minutes of training (or if they go slower than targeted build rate they do not remain an employee).
At the end of the day, when this guitar is sold a half dozen times after going through a few pawn shops ... someone will try to run the serial number against Fender's database and it won't match anything thus proving it's not a Fender guitar. Just a jumble of parts. At which time it sells for more money as parts than it will as a complete guitar.
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El Gobernador
fezz parka
Jimbo99
Senior Stratmaster
If you ordered every part at the same time (2022) and the parts (neck, body, perhaps loaded pickguard & tuners as well are same year manufactured (2022), the entire guitar is a 2022 Fender Stratocaster. If the serial number database supported that & your receipts do as well. I wouldn't argue the point that it was an authentic Fender Stratocaster as a buyer. If another bought it, pass on the documentation just lke any Custom Shop from Fender directly does.
Pandamasque
Senior Stratmaster
Shame that the guy who bought this one for almost one million USD got scammed into thinking it was a real Fender Strat! 
No wonder Clapton is so controversial!
No wonder Clapton is so controversial!
Partscaster's don't exist.
Its a modified guitar. Non-factory. Call it what, it is. Not some generic, made up name for any fender made in the last 70 years that, you still have to explain after calling it a "partscaster". Partscaster is the most useless word in this community. It doesn't identify anything except a non-stock guitar. Call it that and you still have to explain what it is. So it's useless as a name.
El Gobernador
fezz parka
A "guy" didn't buy it. Guitar Center did.
Hanson
Senior Stratmaster
Shame that the guy who bought this one for almost one million USD got scammed into thinking it was a real Fender Strat!
No wonder Clapton is so controversial!
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Blackie sold for a million dollars because of the guy playing it.
Danny D
Senior Stratmaster
I had to look that one up! Thanks, I get it now.
soulman969
Most Honored Senior Member
Good points and a very good question.
If each and every one of us took the position that unless it was completely assembled in a Fender facility including upgrades then it's a partscasters even if all we did was replace saddles, tuners or a string tree. This is why I refuse to use the term partscaster.
Since that's a pretty ridiculous stance I would submit that assembling and/or modifying one on our own does not make it any less Fender provided the bones are still Fender parts. In many instances the guitar has been made better than stock. But when sold this should be disclosed.
Pandamasque
Senior Stratmaster
True. But I bet the lot was called "Fender Stratocaster guitar played by..." At no point ever I've seen it referred to as "not a Fender".
Thanks to all of you for stating your thoughts. I do by the way have all of the documentation stating the fact that all parts were purchased from Fender including the strings. Also the cost of everything.
In the end I call it a Fender Stratocaster. My other one I built is a MarvaCaster, S body and a Stew Mac neck, Fender Locking Tuners, Fender pre-wired pickguard. No doubt anyone would call it a Fender, it's a MarvaCaster! The plus side it plays and sounds like no other!
In the end I call it a Fender Stratocaster. My other one I built is a MarvaCaster, S body and a Stew Mac neck, Fender Locking Tuners, Fender pre-wired pickguard. No doubt anyone would call it a Fender, it's a MarvaCaster! The plus side it plays and sounds like no other!
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Intune
Most Honored Senior Member
Who cares call it wherever you want. You’re being silly about this. Call whatever you have or put together a fender Strat. Anyone that thinks the same way you obviously do can all do that same. We seem to all agree on this.
Now when you say Blackie sold for whatever amount and you say at no point was it referred to as anything else but a fender Stratocaster, you’re talking about selling. Now in your logic of thinking you can do the same. Don’t mention your all parts fender Stratocaster is nothing more fender Stratocaster when you sell it. Let’s see if you get a knock on your door or a phone call with a follow up question.
But, but, but nothing. You sold someone a partscaster and they’re pissed. But Blackie was. Not sure why everyone argues this to death, it’s pointless.
Hanson
Senior Stratmaster
Gilmour‘s Strat was a parts caster. SRV’s Strat was a parts caster. It’s the person playing the guitar that makes it valuable, not vice versa.
The hard facts are that guitar market is based on what the buyer will pay for the instrument. Unless you are famous, your parts caster may not sell for the same value as a Fender that is not a parts caster. That’s just the way the market works.
You are right. In fact everyone has been right. that is what this forum is for. To share opinions and get help when needed from people that have been there, done that!
