1963 Jaguar Realistic Price?

Fenderbaum

Senior Stratmaster
Aug 11, 2020
2,305
Bergen, Norway
Listed at $3700 and takes offer..
All original according to owner. But finish is stripped..
Owner is getting lower bids than $3700
If i was to give it a pro-refinish, could i get some value of this?
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Fenderbaum

Senior Stratmaster
Aug 11, 2020
2,305
Bergen, Norway
Just realised that i am confusing Jaguar with Jazzmasters.. They go for quite different prices.
Still.. would be fun to restore this one..
He got a bid for $3000
 

Intune

Most Honored Senior Member
Jan 14, 2021
8,605
Edmonton, Alberta
I’d love to have that for $3k. Would be cool to see pics under the pickgaurd. It’s got some flat head screws in the tremolo which are obviously not original. I see 3 nail holes in the front so not sure why? There’s lots of original going on but who knows what’s under the hood. Super cool though
 

lifelonggtrgeek

Strat-Talker
Jan 13, 2015
450
Rocky Mts
For your viewing pleasure here is my all original 63 Jaguar. I also have the matching Black Face Champ amp with original amp cover that was originally sold as a set in 63.

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Wow - that’s the drool worthy guitar of the day! 🤤 🤤 do you play it much? What a beauty.

That’s a bucket list guitar of mine. So cool to have the amp that was purchased with it!
 

Scott Baxendale

Most Honored Senior Member
Silver Member
May 20, 2020
9,472
Sante Fe, NM
Wow - that’s the drool worthy guitar of the day! 🤤 🤤 do you play it much? What a beauty.
I use it in the studio quite a bit. I rarely gig with it. I also have a 67 Jaguar as well, but it has been refinished.

Here is a pic of the 67. It has a mastery bridge, but I like the original bridge better.

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Fenderbaum

Senior Stratmaster
Aug 11, 2020
2,305
Bergen, Norway
No.. The neck would be left as is..
I would send the body to Tom who did This PreCBS Strat that was in absolute shambles. (Was a fun thread.) That Strat was also for sale recently (listing is gone) for $9000.
He did a great job with the finish on that poor thing
But yeah, MAYBE i would just keep it that way. But i am in Asia for the time being, so probably a no-buy. But would be on it if i was home.
I think it is beautiful just the way it is. If you do a refin, are you going to do the neck too? Shiny new body paint and beat up old neck finishes look terrible together. So you'll need to do a relic job on your new refin, and they don't always look so good.
 

Scott Baxendale

Most Honored Senior Member
Silver Member
May 20, 2020
9,472
Sante Fe, NM
If you don't mind me asking, Scott, why?
The original bridge is designed to rock with the whammy where the string contact to the bridge moves with the whammy and never loses its point of contact. It takes some understanding of how it operates to set it up right, but once it is it never goes out of tune. One issue, which has an easy fix, is that the screws in the original bridge tend to vibrate loose and un-adjust them selves when playing. The easy fix is to use loctite or a drop of super glue on the screw threads once it is set up. This keeps the screws from moving and the bridge becomes very stable. The Mastery bridge is a well machined hand made replacement bridge that doesn’t really rock. The strings slide over the saddles a little which tends to make it not stay in tune quite as well when you really whang on the whammy hard. The mastery is a great after market upgrade that is an easy drop in replacement that is a definite upgrade in terms of materials and refinement in how it’s made, but they aren’t cheap.
 

RavenPOL

Strat-Talker
Nov 24, 2022
466
Poland
The original bridge is designed to rock with the whammy where the string contact to the bridge moves with the whammy and never loses its point of contact. It takes some understanding of how it operates to set it up right, but once it is it never goes out of tune. One issue, which has an easy fix, is that the screws in the original bridge tend to vibrate loose and un-adjust them selves when playing. The easy fix is to use loctite or a drop of super glue on the screw threads once it is set up. This keeps the screws from moving and the bridge becomes very stable. The Mastery bridge is a well machined hand made replacement bridge that doesn’t really rock. The strings slide over the saddles a little which tends to make it not stay in tune quite as well when you really whang on the whammy hard. The mastery is a great after market upgrade that is an easy drop in replacement that is a definite upgrade in terms of materials and refinement in how it’s made, but they aren’t cheap.

Thanks for detailed answer. I always considered Jazzmaster/Jaguar flaws in design (bridge, tremolo, neck shim, string buzz) reported all over the internet to be nothing more than a lack of understanding of hardware and proper setup.
 

guitarchaeologist

Dr. Johnny Fever
Silver Member
Dec 17, 2016
9,720
GMT +3
So as we age, we hold on to certain pieces of info and never update them.
One of those pieces of info, for me, is the 1980s costs of offset & student level Fender guitars.
In my 56 year old mind, these are still $200-300 max. I cannot comprehend almost $4K. Does not compute.
 

3bolt79

Dr. Stratster
Oct 16, 2018
18,336
Oregon
McKenzie River Music had an Excellent condition Jaguar in LPB. All original with case, and he was asking $7500.00, and he got it. I don’t think a refin is ever going to do that. These ain’t Strats.
 

Intune

Most Honored Senior Member
Jan 14, 2021
8,605
Edmonton, Alberta
So as we age, we hold on to certain pieces of info and never update them.
One of those pieces of info, for me, is the 1980s costs of offset & student level Fender guitars.
In my 56 year old mind, these are still $200-300 max. I cannot comprehend almost $4K. Does not compute.

Funny because no one wanted them in the 70’s or 80’s because if you had one, they are for surf and you were pretending to be a beach boy. They were actually and still are the most expensive fender made. Even the custom shop jag/jazzmaster costs more then any other fender. I get what you’re saying though. My AV65 jag is probably one the best fenders I’ve ever had. It really does it all.
 
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